Baja california book of mormon lands in north

The rio colorado is north of any narrow neck location. The beginnings of prehistoric archaeology in baja california, 173219 3 taravals own voice comes to us in an account of an expedition that he dispatched in 1732 from his mission at san ignacio to isla cedros, the large island off the peninsulas west coast. The website for baja california is he has been putting on firesides in southern alberta. The rough guide to baja california rough guide travel.

However, the fatherson team of david and lynn rosenvall believe the baja peninsula south of california in mexicoits most famous city you may recognize is tijuana could be the location of book of. I told him id let him do a guest post to present his own theory. It is our assertion that the heartlands of the book of mormon peoplesthe nephites, the lamanites, the jaredites and the people of mulekwere located in what is now the peninsula of baja california. The peninsula is approximately 760 miles 1,220 km long and 25 to 150 miles 40 to 240 km wide. Another baja california book of mormon model posted on september 9, 2014 by bruce nielson after making a post on a baja california book of mormon model, i was contacted by beau anderson who has put together his own baja california model. When you consider that baja california is a place where fertile lands are found in geographically restricted areas, the fact that those places are distributed in a way that matches up well to the book of mormon text is a significant strength to the model. Book of mormon geography posted on july 25, 2014 by bruce nielson i recently came across a new and interesting book of mormon geography theory that i wanted to pass along even though i havent researched it much yet and so cant say what i think of it. The book of mormon sometimes says they would go over to the other lands, because they had to go up and over those mountains through mountain passes in the northernmost part of the range then down in to the valley where the.

In the overview article, the rosenvalls go into great detail on showing how similar the climate of baja california is to the mediterranean. Geographical, and other evidences in support of the book of mormon landscape, as found in north. This little hill is identified as the hill cumorah in our model of the lands of the book of mormon. More thoughts on the heartland model of book of mormon. After several months of intense careful study of the text i have put together the following proposed map, showing the relative positions of book of mormon lands, cities, rivers, etc. After 1848, the baja california peninsula again became a mexican territory when alta california was ceded to the united states see 1854 map. Zarahemla and the land of bountiful with a small neck of land on its northern border were. When i returned home from my mission in 1987, my father at the time was showing me something called hypertext. None of the baja california theories include all geographical references, so comparing these theories to the book of mormon is incomplete. Keep reading to discover the states greatest animal and insect threats and learn what to do if you are bitten or stung by one. What all book of mormon geography enthusiasts miss are the prophecies that are tied to the land. Dec 04, 2006 the first edition of the rough guide to baja california explores the peninsula in its entirety.

Another testament of jesus christ for our day discover the book of mormon like youve never seen it before. An approach to the book of mormon geography a choice land. This book locates everything from the narrow neck, to zarahemla, from cumorah, to the land of promise, bountiful. Baja california travel guide what to do in baja california. Readers can follow the links to the peruvian and baja models and come to their own conclusions. Olsens malay theory, and david rosenvalls baja california theory. Jul 12, 2017 3 while putting that project together, he and his father came up with a new book of mormon geography theory on the baja peninsula. Lands end baja california, sometimes called the friars, has many meanings and feelings for different people. Jan 08, 2011 the fallacy of extremist theoriesthe baja california theory some theorists have gone far and wide to come up with an exotic location for the land of promise of the book of mormon.

More thoughts on the heartland model of book of mormon geography. My new book, nephi in the promised land is now available in the nephi project discovery store. There is an incredibly lengthy section in archaeology and the book of mormon covering the proposed book of mormon geographical setting, and does not really talk about any hard archaeological evidences. My response is simple, there isnt one or even ten, but rather it is the correlation of everything asserted in the book of mormon can be plausibly found in baja california that is most compelling.

Part iii david rosenvall writes of his baja california model in his website that three other areas of evidence are also basic. Is this a plausible location for the book of mormon. Apr 18, 2010 many people ask what the most compelling evidence is that baja california is the location of the book of mormon lands. There are only two rivers in the baja region that are permanent rivers, the rio colorado and rio mulege. The climate of jerusalem, its got to be california or baja california, one of those californias. After making a post on a baja california book of mormon model, i was contacted by beau anderson who has put together his own baja california model. Book of mormon geography, the near cumorah setting there have been numerous attempts to locate the long, lost lands of the book of mormon over the years. Dec 30, 2012 lands end is where the sea of cortez and the pacific ocean meet in the azure waters at the tip of the baja peninsula. In other words, as you travel north of bountiful and south of zarahemla, the. The main one says that a new jerusalem would be setup before the book of mormon came forth see subpage new jerusalem already here further down. There are no large bodies of water more than one north of any part of the baja california chosen as the narrow neck. Virtual book of mormon book of mormon maps and learning tools.

Joseph smith did not receive revelation where book of mormon lands were located. This one inconsistency invalidates baja california theories. Book of mormon in north america maps book of mormon evidence. The location of the book of mormon lands has little to do with the truth of the book but the book of mormon had to happen somewhere. The author, david kier, does a remarkable job of chronicling the jesuit, franciscan, and dominican missionaries and the missions they founded in baja california. The land of zarahemla is at a lower elevation relative to the land of nephi. Escaping winter in baja california hasta alaska s04e06. Horse remains have been found in california which radiocarbon date before the spanish arrival to the area.

By north america i mean the continent of north america, everything north of south america. Schmal the baja california peninsula is located in the northwestern portion of the mexican republic. Several locations are described in relationship to. Virtual book of mormon book of mormon maps and learning. Additionally, theodore brandleys north american theory, and garth. Baja california, and any area in central america south of costa. The book of mormon geography lands and map with dna evidence.

What led you to baja california as a potential site for the. Jul, 2010 using my background and training as a professional geographer and especially my work in climatology, it came to me, using a scriptural phrase, in an instant, suddenly that the book of mormon lands could have been located in the two states of baja california, mexico, and southern area of the state of california, because of their. Internal book of mormon geography focuses on the relationships between lands and other geographic features, independent of where they might be physically located on todays maps. There are times when there is not the opportunity to get a clear understanding of what the traveler saw and these bulletins will help with that understanding. As nephites traveled from east to west zarahemla, they had to go round about this wilderness on the north side. At the time of spanish contact, the central half of baja california was occupied by. Jan 31, 2011 it is interesting that anyone would think tha baja california is the land of promiseor that the word isle means a peninsula.

It has been a year since i added content to this site, not because ive lost interest or become dissuaded from the possibility that events described in the book of mormon occurred in baja california and the north american southwest, but because last year i was diagnosed with a large tumor that my doctors initially thought was cancerous. Baja california event tickets buy and sell tickets to all types of events at a variety of venues in baja california at stubhub. The purpose of this article is to give cerro prieto a proper introduction so that those who study our model can start to understand the characteristics of the hill and its surroundings as well as its prominence in the area. This new production analyzes book of mormon names with interesting origins in. But like every wild place, this mexican state has its own dangers of which you should be aware. Sep 08, 2009 a friend sent me info from a website of the book of mormon archaeological forum in which 16 scriptural points were listed as having to exist for any book of mormon lands proposal must include all of these to be seriously considered.

Horses in the book of mormon the list of archaeological and. Baja california is extremely biodiverse along its coasts. The fallacy of extremist theoriesthe baja california theory some theorists have gone far and wide to come up with an exotic location for the land of promise of the book of mormon. New jerusalem true book of mormon geography lands western. In 1931 baja california territory was divided into northern and southern territories. The baja model of book of mormon geography book of mormon. Here is more evidence showing that the lamanites of the book of mormon are in north america not mezoamerica as published in our book several years ago. These covenant lands are in the borders of the prophetic. The historic characters, events, and locations that put baja california on the map, greg niemann, longtime baja traveler, journalist and author of baja fever, has given readers a thorough and easytoread reference to the colorful history and. Satellite image of baja california, mexico, overlaid with book of mormon lands.

The rough guide to baja california rough guide travel guides. A model for the book of mormon in baja cerro prieto. To geographers it would be that last southern point of rock on the baja california peninsula. Well talk more about language in a future episode, but let me ask you. Land of desolation sea west sea east the book of mormon lands 0 100 miles land of bountiful land of. The church and byu stay neutral in questions of exactly where the book of mormon took place.

Nov 22, 2010 readers can follow the links to the peruvian and baja models and come to their own conclusions. Dec 02, 2016 to help with the increasing amount of new information, a blog site has been setup for research relating to the book of mormon lands in baja california. The book of mormon claims that horses were found on the american continent after the arrival of at least two groups of people. God just called prophets in both lands to make sure his children had his word. Going deeper than just physical geography, members of the rosenvalls working group have also done a fantastic job of pointing out that the climate of baja california and southern california parallel climaterelated references in the book of mormon quite well. Traveling from the land of desolation in the north, to the land southward, we encounter the principal book of mormon lands of bountiful, zarahemla, and nephi. A model for the book of mormon in baja language and. The lord could have removed all questions regarding the exact locations of these events but he did not. See my answers to questions about the book of mormon here. I think this is a clear cut case of merging this information into this article. As noted above, one of the weaknesses for the baja model is the lack of archaeological support for civilizations during book of mormon periods in lands that are suggested to encompass book of mormon cities. And the baja california peninsula itself, a continental block, or terrane, originating in central west mexico, is destined to reaccrete to the north american continent sometime in. Baja california, peninsula, northwestern mexico, bounded to the north by the united states, to the east by the gulf of california, and to the south and west by the pacific ocean.

Baja california land of missions is superbly written and researched, with over a hundred photos, maps, and drawings. Baja california, a blend of urban excitement and ecotourism, gourmet cuisine and street eats, luxury hotels and campgrounds, spas and surf spots, archaeology and architecture. As each new theory surfaces, we gain fresh hope of acquiring additional insights into it ancient location, but are all too often disappointed. It conforms to the book of mormons requirement that the events took place in a limited geography. When i think of the baja california peninsula, i think of the baja offroad race where people take lots of vehicles and cross the deserts in all sorts of vehicles.

Appreciate your comments and keeping on top of these weird theories out there that make the bom appear like some ancient academic text that needs someone to tell us what it means. Proposed book of mormon geographical setting wikipedia. When you consider that baja california is a place where fertile lands are found in. However, the fatherson team of david and lynn rosenvall believe the baja peninsula south of california in mexicoits most famous city you may recognize is tijuana could be the location of book of mormon lands. Baja california peninsula and western mexico probably consist of these ancient relocated land masses. Baja california, also called baja california norte, estado state, northwestern mexico, bounded to the north by the united states california and arizona, to the east by the state of sonora and the gulf of california sea of cortez, to the west by the pacific ocean, and to the south by the state of baja california sur. When i think of the baja california peninsula, i think of the baja offroad. We believe in the hill north of manchester where joseph smith would eventually meet with him. The hypothesis suggests adobe as the cement, which might work, but only for areas which dont have a lot of rainfall, which would melt the adobe which is why it works well in the arid southwest. Read about itineraries, activities, places to stay and travel essentials and get inspiration from the blog in the best guide to baja california.

May 02, 2010 another bonus is the fact that the baja peninsula is much closer to the generally accepted book of mormon locations than say the malay theory. Book of mormon land in baja general discussions mormon. Is this a plausible location for the book of mormon lands. Book of mormon lands were thought to occupy all of south americathe land southwardand north. The heartland hypothesis doesnt place the southwest in the model, and it certainly wouldnt be north of book of mormon lands. Melek, city and land of noah, hermounts, city of moronihah, city of nephihah, land of shemlon, narrow strip of wilderness, city of bountiful, valley of alma, land of jershon, sea west, city of zarahemla, hill manti, waters of mormon, hill amnihu, city of an. Interactive book of mormon map virtual book of mormon. A summary of several theories of book of mormon lands in. Hes the guy who came up with who came up with the idea that the book of mormon lands may have occurred in the baja peninsula. His latest newsletter dated oct, 2009, says, 10 reasons why the book of mormon took place in peru. The book of mormon itself is the best source for understanding the geographical locations contained therein. George is a proponent that the book of mormon lands are in peru. California sea lions live on the states islands, while various types of whales, including the blue whale, breed in the regions waters.

The gulf of california and baja californias shores are home to onethird of earths marine mammal species. You will not believe what we found in baja california beach. But trace them back to where their language came from and youll find its southern california and northern baja. Book of mormon geography posted on july 25, 2014 by bruce nielson i recently came across a new and interesting book of mormon geography theory that i wanted to pass along even though i havent researched it much.

The baja model has a general list of attractive features. A summary of several theories of book of mormon lands in mesoamerica the contents of all bmaf publications are the sole responsibility of the individual authors and therefore do not necessarily represent the views of bmaf or the church of jesus christ of latterday saints. Nearby are the more local historical sites, so its a good jumping off point to start ones tour of the town. Purpose of the book of mormon tour helps these single page descriptions of a specific book of mormon site are designed to provide pertinent information to the traveler about the site. To help with the increasing amount of new information, a blog site has been setup for research relating to the book of mormon lands in baja california. When i think of the baja california peninsula, i think of the baja offroad race. See more ideas about book of mormon, mayan ruins and lds art.

The book of mormon does not say that the entire land northward resides in land occupied by the united states of america. The first edition of the rough guide to baja california explores the peninsula in its entirety. The fallacy of extremist theoriesthe baja california theory. Home book of mormon book of mormon on the baja peninsula. It is pretty apparent to me that the book of mormon lands are much. In 1952, the north territory of baja california became the 29th state of mexico as baja california. The dimensions, scope, variety and land area of these combined regions are more than ample as a setting for events, locations and distances described in the book of mormon. Jul 15, 2017 if thats who are the book of mormon people, you would see their culture where they were found when the europeans found them. I have looked for any responses to the arguments of placing the events in baja california but i suppose that their argument is so. The climate of jerusalem, its got to be california or baja california, one of those. I recently discovered a baja california theory that is in the early stages of development, and i look forward to the information the authors are developing. Narrow neck baja california book of mormon geography.